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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.03 16:29:00 -
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New Teaser Poster:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/10424/original/stid.jpg?1354531077
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Reminds me of Matrix.
Actually it's the same artist as the Dark Knight Trilogy.
Not very imaginative there, imho.
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Bane Necran wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Reminds me of Matrix. Not much difference between using the force and hacking the matrix. But the Disney version will have a wisecracking sidekick, and break into song every 15 minutes. 
Um...this is about Star Trek. 
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:30:00 -
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Americans will always use Brits as the bad guy as Brits sound like they are actually educated. We can't have such things in America anymore, doncha know ?
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:39:00 -
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no Khan in this one, sorry.
Villian is Gary Mitchell (Gary Lockwood's character in 2nd OS Pilot).
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:48:00 -
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It says "rumored" by Khan's name, as that site is not exactly updated with current info.
A cast member let it slip by accident during a recent interview.
Next.
edit: Besides, Khan had an entire crew as we all know. And even official plot summaries only mention a "one man weapon of mass destruction".
Also, even in this Star trek Universe, they are not even in the part of space yet where Khan can even be found. It's still in their future. Mitchell would be about right.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 18:32:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:
ABBA's 4th album, side two, first track.
AK
The ABBA albums here in America had different releases thatn in Europe. We had no album called "Ring Ring" for example.
Regardless, that leaves either "Money Money Money" or "The Eagle", and I'm just not sure of your reference.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 18:54:00 -
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"STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS GÇô Approved Synopsis 11/26/12
In Summer 2013, pioneering director J.J. Abrams will deliver an explosive action thriller that takes Star Trek Into Darkness.
When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis.
With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.
As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death, love will be challenged, friendships will be torn apart, and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew."
Sounds more like someone with "supernatural" powers, of which Khan had none. And he most definitely was not a member of starfleet, in this universe or the other one.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 19:24:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:Would make sense that it's Khan.
How ?
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Posted - 2012.12.03 20:54:00 -
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Welp, we shall know in a few days when the first 9 minutes of the movie will be shown before "The Hobbit".
I actually pray that we are both wrong, just because you are so idiotically adamant, with reasons not worthy of the most inept Troll.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:35:00 -
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I just found out for real.
The villian is Cyrano Jones, this time with a deadly load of Tribbles that mean business.
edit: Hey, it makes perfect sense with AlleyKatz' reasoning.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 04:02:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Except that you had to do some creative contorting in your explanation to make Khan a somewhat plausible choice. Not to mention it doesn't explain how he could detonate the fleet. He was certainly smart, but still a relic of the past with no ways or resorces in his disposal to achieve all that. Entire empires of that time period would struggle to do that. In the first film a comparable feat of power required time traveling as explanation. A one man superweapon strongly points to a TOS villain and if we limit the choice to likely human ones, it's very likely Gary Mitchell. He is a star fleet officer, friend of Kirk, gains access to superpowers and thinks of himself as a god. Fits much better with no contorting being necessary. I see what you're sayin', but Gary Mitchell didn't have a successful movie made after him that made 800% profit. I like Star Trek, but until this thread came into being, I had no fuckin' clue who Gary Mitchell was. Khan, we know - and the only movie 'Gary' I can think of, is Anthony Michael Hall's character in 'Weird Science', and I only remember that because of boobies and insane l33t hacking skillsAnnnnnd, we're back to british accents with Kelly LeBrock...kinda. AK
When they made Wrath of Khan, only hardcore fans knew who he even was.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 12:02:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:That wasn't me as I was born in '83 Still don't know who he was 
It's still hard to grasp for me that people were being born when I was finishing my Senior year in HS.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 12:04:00 -
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Caleidascope wrote:With that Ferris Wheel by the river, I am guessing London.
Or mayhaps San Francisco gets one before the 23rd Century.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 13:52:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Yessss ... also ... Khan? Really? Khan?
Evil dictator from the eugenic wars, enslaver and destroyer of millions?
Actually, this would have been the worst idea.
Montalban's towering performance here is too iconic for just anyone to step into the shoes....much less the Cumberbatch fellow who does indeed play the villain.
An actor can upstage an already iconic performance as Heath Ledger did to Nicholson's take on the Joker.
But Richard Cumberbatch is no Heath Ledger.
edit: also the synopsis says villlain was a member of Starfleet as shown above......ipso facto not Khan. I wouldn't want to see that hypothetical film anyway.
And if it is Gary Mitchell......will we see Sally Kellerman's character as well........
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:59:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:
I wouldn't count Cumpterbach out yet. I only know him from Sherlock but there he was pretty damn good.
I'm not disagreeing with you as to his acting capabilities, but he is no Khan.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 14:56:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Reiisha wrote:
I wouldn't count Cumpterbach out yet. I only know him from Sherlock but there he was pretty damn good.
I'm not disagreeing with you as to his acting capabilities, but he is no Khan. Sorry for the derail, but I actually loved the guy in "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" even if his part was short. I actually enjoyed the film, but him as a villain, well. Might be a bit for him, or perhaps not. But ... I just wish if they decide to remake Khan, he-¦s as strong as the original.
Highly unliely.
Besides, why do people want nothing but an exact re-tread of where we have most famously been before.
To me it would smack of a Quickie Cash Grab of a movie, and for one, I would not patronize it.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 14:58:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Gary Mitchell is kind of a dumb villain to be bringing back.
That's a statement, now explain why it is dumb.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:51:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Gary Mitchell is kind of a dumb villain to be bringing back. That's a statement, now explain why it is dumb. Can't speak for him, but many have reservations about it for two reasons. First, they think his story can only be done by basicly redoing the old TOS episode.
Apparently not. That is obviously him on Earth, and he never gained his superpowers until after he boards the Enterprise...and they did not return to Earth before he was killed.
So no, it's not going to be a remake of the episode.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:00:00 -
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Welp. We'll know tomorrow:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59881
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Posted - 2012.12.06 15:45:00 -
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Go to the Aint't It Cool link just above here for the TRAILER
It's obviously Gary Mitchell, down to the blue eyes.....and the unknown blonde lady (Sally Kellerman redux).
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Posted - 2012.12.06 16:41:00 -
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Jago Kain wrote:[It's like me assuming that all citizens of the USA are stupid, selfish, greedy and grasping, right-wing fundametalist, arrogant AND servile at the same time (quite an achievement) childish inebriates with a plastic surgery fixation and delusions of musical talent ("let the eagle soar" my left buttock) just by looking at the way the country is run.
I am American born in Arkansas and have lived in the diverse populations of Houston, TX, San Francisco, and Tampa/St Petersberg, Florida.
If you assume the above, you unfortunately do not assume wrong, sad to say.
edit: the amount of any kind of intelligent discourse in the States is rare, but would happen occasionally in San Fran, as is to be expected.
A few of us are trying to keep the intellectual torch alive, but it's become in the last 5 years or so a Losing Battle. It's REAL bad here. Florida is a mental cesspool tbh. Backwards as backwards can get.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 16:49:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Gary Mitchell is kind of a dumb villain to be bringing back. That's a statement, now explain why it is dumb. Can't speak for him, but many have reservations about it for two reasons. First, they think his story can only be done by basicly redoing the old TOS episode. Secondly, because in TOS he was a friend of Kirk in the acadamy, but in the little we saw about the academy in the new movie he clearly wasn't. Bringing him from nowhere as a best friend of Kirk would be hard to swallow. The common objections seem to stem from people being so closely tied to the details presented in TOS, that they think the makers of the new movies are somehow restricted by them. If they go with Mitchell, he will likely just be a guy with a personal connection to Kirk and obtains superpowers. All other details will be thrown out the window as they see fit.
I understand your perception of the issues folks my have here with the GAry Mitchell idea. But then the last ST movie most definitely broke with cannon, and I get the 'vibe' that the ST community (and the casually interested general public) have embraced the fact that it's going to be totally different.
Not making Gary Mitchell a friend of Kirk at the Academy is a really easy change tbh.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:59:00 -
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BTW, the trailer had probably the most explosions I've seen in quite awhile.
But the lens flares were indeed absent
EDIT:I can't find the article, but it was about how the level of lens flares in the last film was partly ILM's doing.
They saw all the lens flares in the finished Bridge shots and all, and they took the cue and made the effects shots also be lens flare heavy. It just compounded the issue and JJ Abrams said it wasn't quite supposed to be like that.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:06:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Let's not assume that they're going to restrict themselves to TOS villains.
One of the very few things that have been said officially is that the villain is from TOS.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:15:00 -
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Oh, there was this little blunder as well by Karl Urban (McCoy): http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/11/12664665-so-maybe-khans-not-star-trek-2-villain-after-all?lite
Would be funny if most of the trailer was fake........and the villain is really The Gorn
Although it wouldn't quite be lying to say the villain is "Sherlock Holmes".
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:19:00 -
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Mark Munoz wrote:I find the Star Trek fan base fascinating they are crazy die hard and extremely protective of the series and everything pertaining to it. Almost as if it wasn't SciFi and was future history being told in the past. :)
Welp, their communicators do indeed look like cell phones.
William Gibson famously said GÇ£The future is already here GÇô it's just not evenly distributed."
The Economist, December 4, 2003GÇ¥
GÇò William Gibson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 22:01:00 -
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Something Random wrote:Its Gary Mitchell for sure, and its all explained here, goto the end paragraph for TL/DR and follow alternate reality. I like JJ's Star Trek, and i like the path hes chosen.
Yeah.....if the movie follows that exact path, but we shall see.
For me really the proof, small though it is, is the pretty unknown blonde girl in the blue shirt seen immediately after Cumberbatch in the trailer. She just hads to be Dehner.
I don't understand why people even want to go to Khan again since that role depended specifically on the acting chops of Montalbahn. I personally would dread a re-tread. Like I said earlier, it would display non-confidence in the new ST universe and would smack of a cash grab.
It's scary how some just cannot think outside the box at all.
I also noticed at IMDB entry that it will also be an 80's flashback with minor roles for Peter Weller, and Heather Langenkamp! She's hardly been in anything at all but Wes Craven's stuff (Original and New Nightmare).
EDIT: changed Khan to Montalbahn. See, it's so ingrained I didn't even type Ricardo's name !
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Mark Munoz wrote:
I was more referring to how people defend the viability of things. Such as how a blackhole acts, or guns, laser warp drives, etc. Fanboyism exists everywhere yes but what I am getting at is I find it fascinating that people go to such great lengths to prove that it COULD be true. That these things COULD exist. Its SciFi. I don't need explanations on the feasibility of its success just give me a good story and pretty explosions.
Whoa whoa whoa nelly for just a minute there...............
As a reader and watcher of SF for most of my 47 years, the ONLY thing that separates Ffantasy from SF is that true SF MUST be based in Actual or Theoritical Science. IT must be explainable. This is why Star Wars is not Science Fiction, it is Space Fantasy. With Fantasy, nothing has to be proven or be real at all. Without these factual or theoretical bases, you have no science fiction you have something else.
Mayhaps you should read Brian Aldiss' "Trillion Year Spree: A history of Science Fiction" so you will even know what you are posting about.
God I hope this was not a trollololol.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 23:39:00 -
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Mark Munoz wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:
I was more referring to how people defend the viability of things. Such as how a blackhole acts, or guns, laser warp drives, etc. Fanboyism exists everywhere yes but what I am getting at is I find it fascinating that people go to such great lengths to prove that it COULD be true. That these things COULD exist. Its SciFi. I don't need explanations on the feasibility of its success just give me a good story and pretty explosions.
Whoa whoa whoa nelly for just a minute there............... As a reader and watcher of SF for most of my 47 years, the ONLY thing that separates Ffantasy from SF is that true SF MUST be based in Actual or Theoritical Science. IT must be explainable. This is why Star Wars is not Science Fiction, it is Space Fantasy. With Fantasy, nothing has to be proven or be real at all. Without these factual or theoretical bases, you have no science fiction you have something else. Mayhaps you should read Brian Aldiss' "Trillion Year Spree: A history of Science Fiction" so you will even know what you are posting about. God I hope this was not a trollololol. Clearly the mixup is that I don't make a distinction in fiction and fantasy. Sure it is wonderful that ideas are loosely based on scientific principles doesn't make the story any more true.
I just wanted folks to be clear on the subject, that's all.
Besides, any great fiction is just writers telling the best lies.
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Given the Stardate (2259) and Cumberbatch's deeply anglo appearance, there is no reason to believe he is Khan Noonien Singh. Even if you argue that this is a new timeline, and that Khan could've been roused from suspended animation earlier than 2267, you've still got to deal with the ethnicity issue. This can't be Khan.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59938
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:29:00 -
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Alright this is getting stupid. Paramount releases this picture today. It's even at Huffington Post.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59945
There is indeed a character in the credits for the Space Seed (Khan) episode of TOS: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708447/fullcredits#cast
Regardless that does not seem to be a really important "iconic TOS character" as promised in earlier official news.
IMHO, at this point, the fans are sounding more angry and frustrated than intrigued, myself included. NOT a great way to promote your film at all. Boo Paramount.
Unless it really is Gary Mitchell under an assumed name at the start of the movie or something that is revealed later in the film, it's strange they would be so clumsy as to name him after that minor character from the Khan episode.
JJ Abrams just needs to get over the secrecy of his projects in this day and age, or just stay UTTERLY shut up till the end.
There, I feel better (pant, pant).
edit: reading further on the InterWebs this is indeed not going over well. We'll see what is said as official reaction. Have they not learned in 46 years not to tick off ST Fanboys ? Nope.
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Who? seems to be the most common reaction to this. The character is basicly so obscure, that it's practically a new one. I don't think it's a bad choice though. A new villain for a new star trek. I certainly hope that the new star wars trilogy goes the same route and clearly separates itself from the old, instead of just repeating it.
Yup. I'm not really sure what 'they' are trying to prove here.
I've been following movie pre-release news since I was 11 in 1976, and StarLog Magazine announced a film coming the next summer with a picture that had a really tall guy in a black cape and helmet and scary mask standing with hands on hips in a white curvy-bordered corridor.
Even the news in 1982 right after "The Elepant Man" won Oscars and it was announced that David Lynch was being considered to direct "The Return of the Jedi", it was real news even if it didn't pan out (thank God). ((About 5 years ago David finally went into detail about that and he had already decided not to do it befor eeven meeting with Lucas. He seriously urged George to direct it himself telling him "It's your baby.") Of course he went with "Dune" though.
But this............is about the strangest deflection-styled PR Campaign I've ever witnessed.
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AlleyKat wrote:So, he mentioned on the directors commentary that botany bay was next...we all inferred that as Khan...
Definitely not Gary Mitchell, then.
Good to be half right, even if it was arrogant assumption.
AK
I don't know. The crewman named Harrison was the 'Unknown Redshirt" who Khan mentally 'suffocates' early in the episode on the bridge.
Serious obfuscation going on with the PR Department.
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:52:00 -
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I checked out the forums on startrek.com (OMG  ) and no theories yet.
BUT, in the midst of all this nonsense we all seem to have forgotten that in the Trailer one can quite clearly see Christopher Pike walking.
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Snipped from Star trek.com
Gary Mitchell has:
GÇóHypercognition
GÇóConscious regulation of autonomic reflexes
GÇóTelepathy
GÇóExtrasensory perception of various kinds, including clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairoratory
GÇóTelekinesis
GÇóThe ability to control energy, including both its directed use as a weapon against other organisms, and an invulnerability to phaser weapons
GÇóThe ability to manipulate matter, including the instant materialization and dematerialization of both organisms and objects
The official synopsis says 'one man weapon of mass destruction.
Combine that with Karl Urban's interview blunder of the name Gary Mitchell, and the shot of the blue-shirted blonde lady, and I think today's news has been a red herring.
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Posted - 2012.12.11 02:56:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
BUT, in the midst of all this nonsense we all seem to have forgotten that in the Trailer one can quite clearly see Christopher Pike walking.
Yeah but iirc he was only in the wheelchair in tos because of some radiation, not because of Nero. It was just a wink to the fans him being in a wheelchair at the end of the 2009 movie, doesn't mean he must always be in a wheelchair, does it? Worf broke his back and had a brand new spinal column by the end of the episode...
Worf has access to medical technology of that sort over 80 years later.
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baltec1 wrote:Whats all this piffle?
The only important question to ask is can we see the ship for all the lense flare.
Oddly enough there are none in the trailer.
One of my posts above here talks about how that happened, and then got compounded by ILM's effects by accident.
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Posted - 2012.12.11 15:20:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Snipped from Star trek.com
Gary Mitchell has:
GÇóHypercognition
GÇóConscious regulation of autonomic reflexes
GÇóTelepathy
GÇóExtrasensory perception of various kinds, including clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairoratory
GÇóTelekinesis
GÇóThe ability to control energy, including both its directed use as a weapon against other organisms, and an invulnerability to phaser weapons
GÇóThe ability to manipulate matter, including the instant materialization and dematerialization of both organisms and objects
The official synopsis says 'one man weapon of mass destruction.
Combine that with Karl Urban's interview blunder of the name Gary Mitchell, and the shot of the blue-shirted blonde lady, and I think today's news has been a red herring. Again: why would he need a gun?
What gun business do you refer too ? If it's in the trailer, that's fine. Gary Mitchell did not have his powers yet at beginning of TOS episode. Probably same for the film if this is what you refer to.
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Welp, apparently the blonde girl is not Dehner : Pretty neat who she is though !
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59945
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Fresh new Teaser today.
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrekintodarkness/
I can't glean any further clarity from this except a whole lot more folks get sucked out of the ship this time around.
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Cracked Magazines corrected version of "Star Trek: Into Darkness" Poster:
(it took me few seconds to get it)
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_492_the-22-worst-possible-taglines-upcoming-movies_p22/#4
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:I like old Start Trek movies where most impact was on crew reliations and exploring space, adventures etc, that exploring space matter were most importand things in this movie series. I dont like this new Star Trek movie trailer, looks like full of action like othres mass crap action movies...
Yeah. That aspect is starting to annoy me as well.
But it could just be the trailers magnifying it, as trailers do have the purpose of attempting to cater to and draw in 'the unwashed masses'.
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Of course the other end of the spectrum is being tooooo slow and contemplative. That happened when Robert Wise directed the first "Star Trek: The Motion Picture". He admitted to falling into the Kubrick trap.
The Next Generation movies also had a great ensemble cast, but it was not an 'action cast' and they were badly misused ("First Contact" excepted).
I still find it hard to believe the guy who directed "Star Trek: The Motion Picture", "The Andromeda Strain", and "The Day the Earth Stood Still"(original) made both "The Sound of Music" and "West Side Story". Talk about diverse !
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um...........no.
Fantasy Island has absolutely no relevance towards the Star Trek Sequel.
Please stop posting.
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:um...........no. Fantasy Island has absolutely no relevance towards the Star Trek Sequel. Please stop posting. I think it's a reference to the actor in Fantasy Island ... Ricardo Montalban ....
Maybe so, but the character has been confirmed as to not be featured in "Star Trek: Into Darkness". (I'm still laughing at the lens flairs added to the poster by Cracked).
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This outdoes the Fantasy Island clip if you really want to go there:
1975 Chrysler Cordoba Ad
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Borascus wrote:I really thought you'd locked this thread.
Blatant Abrams Trolling is Blatant! might have caused a second degree thread-locking.
Erm, thanks for posting but this really makes no sense.
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New article: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60161
So, villain is 'sorta superhuman'. Name 'John Harrison' may be a ruse. Cryopods are visible in trailer. The villian is long confirmed to be from TOS.
What with the blonde girl also being confirmed as Dr. Carol Marcus, the winds seem to be swinging towards Khan again.
Gary Mitchell or Khan ?
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Tian Jade wrote:Call me a Star Trek nerd if you want but I don't consider the Abrahamsverse Star Trek it does not have anything from Gene Roddenberry's original vision and replaces it with lots of explosions and unneeded drama.
The original series was far ahead of it's time, with a black woman as a member of the command crew and also having a peace message that is still almost unthinkable in most sci-fi-movies and series. The Klingons were for example often the antagonists but never the villains, which is a very important difference.
Abrahams starts with lots of drama, Kirk being born on a starship that is is about to be destroyed, his father sacrificing himself etc and continues with a romulan villain that decides to blow up planets because... um why exactly? Which makes him the kind of cardboard box villains I loathe to see in any movie, star trek or otherwise.
Everything in your 2nd paragraph that you said was not in the film is. Either you are a moron, or are trolling.
Also, he blows up a planet, not PLANETS. Vulcan. In fact not blown up. IMPLODED. Why ? Because Spock failed to save Romulus from a supernova.
I don't think you even watched the film.
We've so far seen one whole movie that was not even 2 hours long from Abrams. And it was an introductory film.
This thread is about the upcoming film and speculation, not your bad mood.
But if you insist, I was born a year before TOS hit the airwaves and have watched it since it's first syndicated rerun in 1972, so I've tuned in for 40 years + now. I have no problem at all with Star Trek 2.0
What do you want, more scenes of people sitting around a table endlessly debating political and ethical concerns ? Badly executed death scenes like Kirk's ?
I see you have no bounty so far, so I took care of that for you. Have a nice day.
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Yeah. I did enjoy VI: The Undiscovered Country, but then it did have the same director as Wrath of Khan. I also enjoyed First Contact, but the rest of the Next Gen movies were action misfires with a non-action ensemble cast being misused.
edit: 5 typos for sakes......................
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Tian Jade wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Everything in your 2nd paragraph that you said was not in the film is. Either you are a moron, or are trolling.
Nice start with ad hominem attacks like a thirteen year old that just discovered the comment button on youtube.
Sorry but I must base my opinion on the material as presented, and it was very very not thought out on your part. Still makes no sense whatsoever, and still sounds like a troll.
Oh well, it doesn't matter as even among lifelong fans you are in a tiny, tiny minority in your opinion......which came across as that of a 13 year old....indeed.
edit: also your posting was way off topic as, again, it had absolutely nothing to do with the 2nd film speculation conversation AT ALL. Derailed utterly.
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Tian Jade wrote:
No I was not trolling but I think you are.
That's about the last thing anyone familiar with my posts the past 3 years would say.
This is the RL equivalent of "I know you are but what am I, infinity".
As someone quite closely related to Star Trek once said "Get a life."
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Tian Jade wrote:You brought the matter on a personal level, which you are quick to forget.
Yes I did indeed, to point out your paper thin ideas in your OP and how distracting they were as they had nothing to do AT ALL with "Star Trek: Into Darkness".
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